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  McKinney Texas pool party?

  by Marvin Shilmer in

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  so today i was asked my thoughts on the pool party incident in mcminney, texas.

  my response: it shows a clash of expectations.

  i saw police officers who expected citizens to listen to and follow instructions.

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  zombie dub

  So glad I don't live there! Seems such a nasty Orwellian, totalitarian police state - this isn't the first time this has been said on this thread. Yes, out-of-control police officers deserve to be punished. But can we please stop referring to the USA as a police state? Prime examples of real-life police states are North Korea and Saudi Arabia.

  Despite all the country's faults, US citizens enjoy freedoms that people in other countries can only dream about.

  The US is demonstratively an Orwellian Police state, the government actively spies on its citizens (and many other countries), records emails, internet activity, phone calls. The police regularly assault and kill people often for doing absolutely nothing wrong and then are defended by the brainwashed, ignorant masses.

  You say N. Korea is a police state, what is that based on? Anything other than Western Media propaganda? I'm not saying it isn't, but speaking to someone that lived there for many years they said it is nothing like it is portrayed.

  There are 10,000s of videos and countless more documentation of the US police state, so its far easier to draw a factual conclusion than somewhere like N. Korea which has little documented outside of the main stream media (which by definition, is almost always propaganda).
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  McKinney Texas pool party?

  by Marvin Shilmer in

  1. social
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  so today i was asked my thoughts on the pool party incident in mcminney, texas.

  my response: it shows a clash of expectations.

  i saw police officers who expected citizens to listen to and follow instructions.

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  zombie dub

  LOL Marvin, people emigrating from Mexico doesn't change the fact that most of the rest of the world looks at the USA as a far from desirable society. Where else can you be left on the sidewalk for dead by an ambulance if you don't have the right insurance. The american dream!
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  McKinney Texas pool party?

  by Marvin Shilmer in

  1. social
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  so today i was asked my thoughts on the pool party incident in mcminney, texas.

  my response: it shows a clash of expectations.

  i saw police officers who expected citizens to listen to and follow instructions.

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  zombie dub

  Yes Morpheus, the cops only go after The Bad Guys (TM), and all the videos constantly being posted of them shooting unarmed individuals repeatedly are just CGI. I am crazy, L!L!LLQLLALOLOL@%^@@^&@

  Enjoy yourself!
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  McKinney Texas pool party?

  by Marvin Shilmer in

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  so today i was asked my thoughts on the pool party incident in mcminney, texas.

  my response: it shows a clash of expectations.

  i saw police officers who expected citizens to listen to and follow instructions.

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  zombie dub

  "You drive on public roads and I'm pretty sure the police can pull you over."

  Maybe in the US, in the UK they cannot unless they suspect you of a crime and have good reason (that they can back up) to do so.
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  McKinney Texas pool party?

  by Marvin Shilmer in

  1. social
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  so today i was asked my thoughts on the pool party incident in mcminney, texas.

  my response: it shows a clash of expectations.

  i saw police officers who expected citizens to listen to and follow instructions.

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  zombie dub

  If in that instance you refused such an order, in the USA you'll more than likely find yourself being handled to the ground, and if you resist in the slightest you'll probably find yourself cuffed

  So glad I don't live there! Seems such a nasty Orwellian, totalitarian police state, I cannot understand why people are pro such a system.

  Have anyone defending the cop's actions thought that people don't obey them blindly as they have no respect for them. You have cops in america murdering people on an almost weekly basis these days, is it any wonder?

  
  
  
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  McKinney Texas pool party?

  by Marvin Shilmer in

  1. social
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  so today i was asked my thoughts on the pool party incident in mcminney, texas.

  my response: it shows a clash of expectations.

  i saw police officers who expected citizens to listen to and follow instructions.

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  zombie dub

  So by your definition, criminals can just walk away and don't have to comply?

  Criminals, no, I have said repeatedly if someone is under arrest or being detained then they have to comply. If that person is not under arrest or being detained they are not a criminal. You are putting words in my mouth. What crime was a young girl in a bikini standing there committing? What makes her a criminal?

  
  

  She ignored repeated requests to move away and ignored / defied them. What are the police to do next - just throw up their hands

  Yup, move along, none of their business
  
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  McKinney Texas pool party?

  by Marvin Shilmer in

  1. social
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  so today i was asked my thoughts on the pool party incident in mcminney, texas.

  my response: it shows a clash of expectations.

  i saw police officers who expected citizens to listen to and follow instructions.

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  zombie dub

  It matters, because, if someone is just standing there on public land, committing no crime, then a police officer (or anyone else) has NO right to be demanding anything of them.

  Quite why you think 14 year olds in bikinis are threats to safety, or had guns (down the bikini tops?) is beyond me. It was quite clear that the young girls the officer was handcuffing and wrestling to the ground were not "threatening safety" or an "unruly crowd".

  Really, if you can't see this though, this is a pointless debate. Your language is so loaded I wonder if I watched the same video is you.
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  McKinney Texas pool party?

  by Marvin Shilmer in

  1. social
  2. current

  so today i was asked my thoughts on the pool party incident in mcminney, texas.

  my response: it shows a clash of expectations.

  i saw police officers who expected citizens to listen to and follow instructions.

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  zombie dub

  But obnoxiously failing to either disperse or sit down when requested to do so in this kind of circumstance is just plain stupid

  Wow, how can "failing to sit down when requested" be obnoxious. I wouldn't sit on the ground either if I didn't want to. Once again, they are public servants, if a member of the public doesn't want to lie in the dirt I don't understand why their servant should be ordering them to do so, when they are not under detention or arrest, and appear to be committing no crime.
  
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  McKinney Texas pool party?

  by Marvin Shilmer in

  1. social
  2. current

  so today i was asked my thoughts on the pool party incident in mcminney, texas.

  my response: it shows a clash of expectations.

  i saw police officers who expected citizens to listen to and follow instructions.

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  zombie dub

  For the most part, sidewalks in the USA are on public right of way.

  You say they are public right of way, Morpheus says they are private land - who is right! I suspect you are, as being private land makes zero sense!
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  McKinney Texas pool party?

  by Marvin Shilmer in

  1. social
  2. current

  so today i was asked my thoughts on the pool party incident in mcminney, texas.

  my response: it shows a clash of expectations.

  i saw police officers who expected citizens to listen to and follow instructions.

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  zombie dub

  How do people walk on them to get home then, without being arrest for trespassing?

  Who are they trespassing against?

  How does a courier or postman delivery anything, do they have to teleport to the house and back out again?

  Deeming roads & sidewalks as private and saying being on them is trespassing must make life extremely hard!